Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Eradicating the Lion's Share of Atheist Morality Arguments

...in a single pass.

"A standard for morality that reduces to "Don't do Bad Thing X, otherwise people will do X to you, and you won't like it." instead reduces further: "Don't get caught doing Bad Thing X, or lacking that, make sure people can't retaliate.""

5 comments:

Syllabus said...

That's one of the major problems with that sort of thinking. It doesn't produce better people, only more sagacious criminals.

Or you could even modify it further to, "convince people that Bad Thing X," or, at any rate, allowing Bad Thing X, "is really helpful to the whole, thus making it morally praiseworthy."

Crude said...

This was partly a response to PZ Myers' idiot "objective morality" bit, which just illustrated that the guy isn't even familiar with the most basic terms in these debates.

One response I saw was that it was mean of theists to attack Myers, because he was obviously an amateur, and instead they should go after more serious philosophers. Which granted, they should - and do. The problem is the same with Myers as it was for Dawkins, Krauss, etc. They present themselves as if they know what they're talking about. Roasting those idiots is fair game.

Syllabus said...

They're saying that, because he's an amateur, people shouldn't beat up on him when he opens his mouth and idiocy spews forth? That goes far beyond hilarious.

Crude said...

Yeah, the line goes, "Why are you spending your time focusing on PZ Myers? He's an amateur. You should be looking for the strongest possible argument and..!" etc. Of course, this is hot on the heels of the typical claim of, "We attack horrible misrepresentations of Christianity because that's what so many typically think, damnit!"

Crude said...

Yeah, the line goes, "Why are you spending your time focusing on PZ Myers? He's an amateur. You should be looking for the strongest possible argument and..!" etc. Of course, this is hot on the heels of the typical claim of, "We attack horrible misrepresentations of Christianity because that's what so many typically think, damnit!"