Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Leah Libresco fallout

Anyone enjoying the sight of this as much as me? The Cult of Gnu couldn't be doing a battle job of making themselves look like a gaggle of lunatics if they tried.

All that's needed is for PZ Myers or Dawkins to swoop in with some kind of weird, sexually degrading comment to put her down. You know they're just holding themselves back. Barely.

I think the icing on the cake would have to be if Leah offhandedly mentioned Myers' recent attempt at describing his atheist 'objective morality' as one of the last straws for her. "It was horrible, it was idiotic, and it happens to represent most of the atheist sentiment on this topic."

Ah well. Kudos to Ms Libresco, says this biased Catholic. I'll actually be posting something more about her soon that has nothing to do with her conversion.

7 comments:

Syllabus said...

Yeah, it's pretty funny to watch them squirm, especially since it's entirely bloody obvious to everyone that her intelligence hasn't abated a single bit. I think it's interesting that what brought her to Christ was her search for a grounding of virtue ethics, rather than any other reason. That method seems to be getting less and less common.

And did you see her CNN interview? She gets positively giddy when she starts talking about the Eucharist. It's almost adorable.

Ephram said...

Sure am. Can this group make itself look anymore like a cult? In some ways it even reminds me of Muslim apostasy, adolescent anger and all, except this time, though, expressed through a coterie of greasy, trigger-happy, autistic gamma males joined at the hip to the internet, and that we all know would abuse power if it ever fell into their hands. But to address another point, since they believe in total annihilation at death, why should it matter to them whether someone else chooses to spend her life believing in something else? Isn't this one life supposed to be enjoyed? Or is the spread of certain beliefs hindering the formation of their liberal, technocratic utopia?

Pathetic rubbish.

I hope David B. Hart is right. I cannot wait for this intellectually frivolous movement to die out.

Cale B.T. said...

Deep in unfathomable mines
Of never failing skill
He treasures up His bright designs
And works His sovereign will.

Karl Grant said...

Well, the entire thing is typical of the Gnu. You're only a free thinker so long as you agree completely with the rest of us.

Crude said...

Actually, what I think is funny about Libresco's particular conversion is that it apparently went down (in part) this way:

Leah: I think objective morality exists, though I have difficulty defending it on naturalism!
Atheists: THERE IS NO OBJECTIVE MORALITY THAT'S CRAZY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE TALK IF YOU THINK THERE'S AN OBJECTIVE MORALITY YOU SHOULD GTFO AND BECOME CATHOLIC OR SOMETHING.
Leah: Alright. Well, I think Catholicism now makes the most sense.
Atheists: OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT NO PLEASE DON'T TELL US WHAT CONVINCED YOU OBJECTIVE MORALITY AND ATHEISM WERE INCOMPATIBLE YOU WERE WRONG WE SWEAR!

Cale B.T. said...

But of course, as Alvin Plantinga points out,

"In other instances, of course, it may be impossible; even if the skeptic in fact accepts premises from which theistic belief follows by argument forms he also accepts, he may, when apprised of this situation, give up those premises rather than his unbelief"

The Deuce said...

It's as predictable as clockwork. Whether or not an atheist says there is objective morality depends entirely on what they're responding to.

If someone (most especially a Christian) asserts that there is such a thing as an objective standard of morality which everyone is obligated to follow, you can guarantee that the Gnus will insist that such notions are unscientific rubbish. If, on the other hand, someone asserts that atheism offers no objective standard of morality, the Gnus will denounce it as slanderous and give you the "atheists are just as moral as Christians" routine.

It depends on whether they're in Gnu-promoting propaganda mode or "excuse myself from guilty feelings" mode, with each mode being triggered completely by what other people say, and not at all by logic.