Thursday, September 12, 2013

We need laws against revenge porn! Wait, what?

So, women let their boyfriends take pornographic pictures and/or videos of them. Later on, the relationship goes south - and the boyfriends end up plastering the pictures online.

What's the solution?

Why, a law against sharing nude photos and videos of someone, even if they happily posed for it, if they don't give express consent.

At this point, I'm starting to wonder just when women are ever going to be treated as adults, liable for their own behavior, rather than treated as - basically - big children who are wards of the state. I mean legally of course, plenty of women know how to act responsible and all. (Well, you know. So I'd think and hope.) Once again, the idea that maybe, you know... women should have some sense and prudence and NOT allow their boyfriends to take pictures or video of them like this is not considered the primary way to deal with the problem. That's blaming the victim, etc, etc.

Note that we're not talking about guys taking these photos covertly, without the women's knowledge. That's a whole other ballgame. We're talking about consenting, willful, 'smile honey! that's perfect! *click*' pics and video. Pardon me if my sympathy is pretty low.

I'm trying to figure out where it will end. Will women be able to bring a lawsuit against guys who bullshit them about driving a porsche and pulling down six figures a year, if the woman decides to blow this guy in the back alley of a bar the night she met him? That's probably bouncing around. 'Truth rape' they'll call it, just as the photo thing is being called 'cyber-rape'. I'm sure using the term in that context doesn't run the risk of backfiring and leading to rape claims being taken less seriously or anything.

The funny thing is, I'm not totally opposed to these laws in principle. I'm more than happy to have the laws on the books be uneven. I just want it, at that point, recognized - legally, formally, and blatantly - that women are actually - for biological and cultural reasons alike - in need of special protection by society and the state, and that men and women are due quite different treatment in general. Seems rather fair, doesn't it?

6 comments:

Syllabus said...

More and more, it's looking like some people, particularly on the left, really do want to legislate morality. They won't call it that, of course. They'll call it 'justice' or something, and while it's a legitimate issue to make laws more just, it really looks like what they mean by 'just' is really 'what I happen to like' or some other similarly subjective criterion.

Crude said...

All the talk of "you can't legislate morality" was a load from the start. What was meant was that they really didn't like the morality being legislated at the time.

malcolmthecynic said...

Feminism is getting comical. Favorite line - "I'm just in favor of equal rights and equal work for equal pay for women!".

I love/hate people's reaction when I ask them "How do we know the work is actually equal? Ever considered they're doing a WORSE job?". It's as if I condemned women to slavery.

That's one of the problems I have with feminists. There's an implicit ASSUMPTION that everybody is equal. Don't get equal pay? That's unfair, because we MUST be doing equal work! They equate equal hours with equal quality.

I think it's quite telling that in management there is no significant pay difference between men and women. In other words, if you REALLY work as hard as men to make it to that position, you get paid fairly.

As for things like this...what a joke.

Crude said...

That's one of the problems I have with feminists. There's an implicit ASSUMPTION that everybody is equal. Don't get equal pay? That's unfair, because we MUST be doing equal work! They equate equal hours with equal quality.

Feminists, no joke intended, seem particularly bad at math. I don't think this is a failing so much as it is dishonesty. See the whole 'women only get paid X on the dollar' commentary - but that's old news by now.

BenYachov said...

Common sense dictates you shouldn't let your boyfriend photograph you naked. I would even extend this to married couples. Your love life is not a spectator sport. Sure Paul & Jammie (i.e.MAD ABOUT YOU) played it for laughs when they accidentally return their homemade sex tape to the video store. But in real life someone might try to blackmail you or embarrass you.

I am reminded of the Wisdom of my favorite Scifi britcom Red Dwarf.

It's not normal to photographic IT and show it too your mates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDQ6ARJzbOo

Crude said...

Common sense dictates you shouldn't let your boyfriend photograph you naked.

Sure. But then common sense is often overridden by idiots who talk themselves into thinking things like this are romantic or are, I guess, sexy enough at the time to be worth the risk.

There's this situation in play where some women want laws out of their sex lives and out of their reproductive processes... unless they feel embarrassed or humiliated because they did something dumb, or they made dumb decisions. Then those laws better get in there and protect and take care of them.