Monday, February 16, 2015

Alan Turing comments

I was asked about a comment I made about Alan Turing a while ago. I can't find the exact comment, but I'm pretty sure I remember the details - there's nothing too amazing or esoteric in them.

So, to summarize...

* The obvious one: Alan Turing was not prosecuted for 'homosexuality'. He was prosecuted for sodomy.

* In particular, sodomy with a 19 year old unemployed man ('A teenage boy', they'd call him if Turing was a priest) who was basically being used as a prostitute by Turing, and who exposed them both by robbing his house.

* This was happening during a period of time where same-sex behavior was considered immoral and mental illness by secular authorities. (People always forget this part, as if Christians in particular are unique throughout history in regarding this kind of thing as 'not right', brutally crushing the secular consensus to the contrary.)

* It was likewise considered problematic since it made Turing - kind of an important figure with state secrets in his head - open to blackmail and manipulation.

* The entire bit about Turing being driven to suicide because of the homophobic attitudes of his time, or even his medication sentence, are largely imagined. That he even committed suicide is entirely speculative, and the coroner apparently decided this on the basis of 'weird guys like this do weird stuff, who fucking knows, he probably was crazy.' That he committed suicide -because of people mistreating gays- is utterly out of thin air. But Godddamn, that makes the whole thing that much more tragic and dramatic and, most importantly, useful - ergo, it's true.

Nothing too surprising here - just read around and you'll see as much.

None of this goes to show that Turing wasn't extremely smart or this or that, but the LGBT activist is so hellbent on animating the dead in service of their cause that they make Herbert West look like a rank amateur.

4 comments:

Irish Thomist said...

Although I think he might have chosen the hormonal therapy so as to avoid not being discharged.


A few of the other details are close enough. Although the way everything was portrayed by others I took it for granted it was over homosexuality not specifically sexual acts. [It is clear by now I'm sure that I haven't read anywhere near enough about his life]

The input has been enlightening.

Crude said...

Although the way everything was portrayed by others I took it for granted it was over homosexuality not specifically sexual acts. [It is clear by now I'm sure that I haven't read anywhere near enough about his life]

Yeah, there's no laws on the books there for 'being a gay man'. The concept wasn't even really present. There's just 'a guy who is sodomizing someone'. Male or female, I believe, particularly in this case.

Glad it was of use. And yes, he did choose hormone therapy.

GoldRush Apple said...

I went downstairs to read today's newspaper only to see the front page about the The Imitation Game's screenwriter. The article was about "being different" and talked about his battles with depression. Then, as I read the article, flipped to its second page, it was about Turing being a homosexual and him being prosecuted for it.

I did some google searches and found this little piece: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-06/richards-the-imitation-game-and-the-straightwashing-of-film/6001864

If you're familiar the movie industry, when it comes to awards times there's always talk about the voting body of the Oscars being "old, white and male" aka conservative, as they say. I wasn't all too surprised that the writer singles these "old, white and male" voters for reasons why Turing's sexuality was suppressed throughout the film.

GoldRush Apple said...

And there's a petition to pardon approximately 49K (why not just make it an even number? Say 50K?) homosexuals who were wrongly convicted of their sexual acts. The Guardian, USA Today, change.org ...