Tuesday, May 3, 2016

As Trump comes closer to the nomination...

...does anyone else notice that Team #NeverTrump refuses to so much as speculate about -why- they've lost?

I mean really speculate, not just identify the litany of faults in their opposition that has landed them in their current predicament. Even if they say people rejected their message, it's worth asking 'Why did they?' What do people like about Trump's message?

This isn't a general election loss. It's a loss within the party itself. By a candidate who has barely spent any money, who has gone up against tens of millions of dollars in ads attacking him, and a press that despises him.

What went wrong? What is Trump doing and saying that is motivating so many people to vote for him at this stage?

Here's something to consider: already you have GOP people talking openly about how they'll vote and campaign for Hillary Clinton now. A wild thought - do you think maybe many of Trump's supporters aren't terribly surprised by that?

6 comments:

planks length said...

I do not believe that Trump would ever had gone as far as he had, if he had faced only two or three opponents at the beginning of this process, instead of (how many were there?) about 17 or so. The fact that everyone else was down in the single digits was solely due to this fact. That, plus the unforgivable stupidity of everyone fighting for second place in every primary, instead of piling on Trump and allowing nature to take its course as to who would come out on top once he was toppled.

Also, the media gave Trump untold hours of free airtime throughout. It was like the OJ trial - all Trump, all the time. Even MSNBC talked more about Trump than any five other candidates combined.

Looks like he's going to be the nominee now, but will the GOP give more than grudging support to him? I seriously doubt it. They'll be concentrating on doing everything possible to preserve the party's majorities in Congress.

This fall's campaign is going to be nastier and noisier than any we've seen in our lifetimes, and I don't care how old you are. Hillary Clinton is nothing if she is not a phenomenally skilled politician, and Trump is now battle tested. Anyone who confidently predicts the outcome, one way or the other, at this point - is a fool.

Crude said...

Let me take the topic off Trump for a moment to address this:

Hillary Clinton is nothing if she is not a phenomenally skilled politician,

Well, then she's nothing, because she has a pretty bad track record as a politician.

The Legend of Mecha-Hillary baffles me at this point. I see this and I feel like I'm reading DNC talking points... from 2008. Phenomenally skilled politician? She married a popular president, one who has since clearly lost his mojo. She wheedled her way into a senate seat by craftily selecting the one state in the nation where she had a chance - deep blue New York - before going on to lose the presidential nomination to a rookie. A rookie whose main selling point at the time was, let's be honest: 'Wow, a technically black man! And so long as we park his ass in front of a teleprompter he sounds decent!'

She got her ass handed to her. In exchange for not going full-bore Robert Byrd on him, she was given the Secretary of State position, which she proceeded to screw up so immensely that she was hauled in front of congress to be grilled about it - something she survived only because the GOP is so inept and (dare I say it) cucky that they couldn't even meaningfully criticize her for literally getting Americans killed. Even without that she's managed to get the FBI, in a friendly administration, looking at her so intently that they know they have to at least pretend they're actually doing their jobs.

Now it's 2016, and her consolation prize - a clear path to the Democratic nomination, complete with the near entirety of the party machine behind her - remains up in the air. Because a septuagenarian full-blown-communist, himself a massive pansy, decided it'd be a hoot to give this a go before he dies. Cue Hillary spending months fighting for her political life and, despite it all, she lost again tonight. If she was a man we'd be comparing her political acumen to one of the Three Stooges.

Phenomenally skilled politician? I don't see it. She's a phenomenally well connected politician. THAT I can grant you. But skilled? C'mon.

Looks like he's going to be the nominee now, but will the GOP give more than grudging support to him?

And in contrast, keep this in mind.

Hillary, with the full support of her party's apparatus, is still struggling to seal the deal against Sanders.

Trump, being opposed by not just his party but a sizable number of 'conservative' media outlets (not to mention multiple billionaires and their superPACs), is a lot further along with that task.

Again, I suggest... perhaps we should ask why this is the case. Perhaps there is a lesson here.

malcolmthecynic said...

Yeah. Why do we think she's a skilled politician again?

The best answer I can come up with is "She somehow managed not to be arrested". Which...is incredibly pathetic when you think about it.

I mean, she is in the running as quite possibly our worst Secretary of State ever. That's saying something.

Hilary is an idiot. I don't say this because I dislike her. I say this because she's running an awful campaign - again.

You think she's learn something from being married to a popular President. Apparently not.

I think Trump wins much easier than people think. I was much more sympathetic to Cruz until he started lobbying for delegates. Hilary has also lobbied for delegates. Fuck them and everything they stand for.

Trump, the demagogue, the authoritarian, the tyrant, the second coming of Hitler, is the only person between him, Cruz, Kasich, and Clinton NOT to have lobbied for delegates, and instead relied entirely on the people's vote.

What a power-hungry narcissist!

(Bernie hasn't either, true, but despite the momentum here Bernie ain't winning.)

Crude said...

The best answer I can come up with is "She somehow managed not to be arrested".

Hahaha.

"She's a terrible politician, but an -excellent- criminal."

See, -that- I could accept.

Crude said...

I was much more sympathetic to Cruz until he started lobbying for delegates. Hilary has also lobbied for delegates.

What soured me on Cruz was in diving for the SJW talking points. "Trump is anti-woman, nay, AFRAID of strong women!" "Trump's rhetoric is why angry mobs of SJWs are trying to beat the shit out of his supporters!" That last one infuriated me.

If Ted tried to sell himself as a real culture warrior, I'd have given him more attention at the end. Instead I got this really foul whiff of Rubio off him. Someone who was very quick to deal with being in a tight spot by apologizing or saying that his opponent was the -real- racist/sexist/what-have-you.

No more of that. No more.

Codgitator (Cadgertator) said...

"My only ambition now is to look back on the entire saga of the 2016 Republican primary and not learn a single thing from it. #NeverTrump"