Friday, May 27, 2016

Trump the con-artist, or Trump the obedient footsoldier?

This sentiment is not original to me, but it bears repeating.

Some people assume that Trump is using his supporters. He's not REALLY very conservative, he's not pro-life, he's not even anti-immigration. He's just saying what Republicans want to hear, playing them for saps just to get what he really wants - the presidency.

What these people don't seem to understand is that a lot of us have been waiting for someone to say what he's been saying for a long time. Speaking and standing up to SJWs, to PC authorities, is what so many of us wanted, a necessary first step to get what we really want. Trump is providing that. Note: he is not promising to provide this. He IS providing it. Trump's candidacy is not a promise that may or may not pay off. It is an immediate payoff in and of itself.

Trump is not using us. We're using him! He can't trick us into thinking he's merely anti-PC, no more than a hammer which has just finished slamming 20 nails into drywall was just pretending it can hammer nails. It did it, ladies and gentlemen, and so long as it keeps doing it, a lot of us are happy.

That we may get screwed is not a dangerous possibility - it's the status quo! Trump doing even part of what he promises would be a change of pace and a bonus besides.

5 comments:

Son of Ya'Kov said...

Trump is not Hilarity/LAdy MacBeth. It may be he has some closet liberal views like her but he clearly isn't an ideologue like her or Obummer.

So he is the lesser of two potential evils. So yeh I will vote for him and he might be better than Bush ever was that include both Jeb and the two Georges.

Mr. Green said...

If Trump were to become president — well, one way or another, things would get interesting. But should he lose, surely the status quo will just come pouring back in. Before Trump, one could argue that if only we didn't pander to the Left, if we could beat down political correctness, then maybe, just maybe, we'd stand a chance; and the standard response was, it's far too risky to waste the opportunity to make a tiny bit of headway on such an unlikely gamble. But if Trump loses, the response will be: "We now know that that strategy is proven not to work, so pandering to the Left to try to scrape up votes is henceforth the only option that will even be considered."

Crude said...

But should he lose, surely the status quo will just come pouring back in.

You're thinking in terms of someone who believes that the only kind of progress is political/electoral progress, and who believes that everyone else thinks the same way.

That's the problem. You're not predicting the future here - you're echoing the past. What you're saying was already said, repeatedly. You could have looked at Romney's results and interpreted it as saying that someone would have said 'We have to move left. We need to be more open to illegal immigration, to left-wing pandering, to more.' You would be right, insofar as the Bushes said that. You'd have been wrong to believe that they'd amass a following.

I do not think the hatred for those kinds of people is going to stop. In fact, I will lay the outside bet that a Trump loss may provoke enough fury that the people who were ready to gloat 'See, you should have listened to us if you wanted to win' will instead be stammering to avoid blame for the lost, lest they get brutalized.

I'm not saying my view is right, but unless you spend the ~9 months predicting a massive Trump win of the nomination, you may want to wonder if something new is happening here.

Crude said...

Spend the last ~9 months, that is.

Mr. Green said...

Crude: You're thinking in terms of someone who believes that the only kind of progress is political/electoral progress, and who believes that everyone else thinks the same way.

Well, on the political side, sure. There's also the media side. Between them, they're responsibly for public schools and TV, which are the biggest influences on what people think. And it's getting less and less Christian, which is the problem, and I don't see Trump changing that. Maybe as a result, the decay will slow down a little, but in the long run, I'm not terribly optimistic.

I'm not saying my view is right, but unless you spend the ~9 months predicting a massive Trump win of the nomination, you may want to wonder if something new is happening here.

I wasn't predicting that, but I am a lot less surprised than some folks. My trouble is trying to see how, new or not, this could build into something that would actually alter the direction society is going in. A hurricane can reverse the Mississippi — but in a matter of hours it's progressing down its old path again.